{"id":11048,"date":"2010-03-04T01:47:00","date_gmt":"2010-03-04T01:47:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/damau.org\/archives\/11048"},"modified":"2019-03-02T10:13:13","modified_gmt":"2019-03-02T10:13:13","slug":"umberto-eco-chung-ta-thich-nhung-danh-sach-vi-chung-ta-muon-duoc-bat-tu-phan-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/damau.org\/en\/11048\/umberto-eco-chung-ta-thich-nhung-danh-sach-vi-chung-ta-muon-duoc-bat-tu-phan-1","title":{"rendered":"Umberto Eco: “Chúng Ta Thích Nh\u1eefng danh sách vì Chúng Ta Mu\u1ed1n \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c B\u1ea5t T\u1eed” (ph\u1ea7n 1)"},"content":{"rendered":"

Ph\u1ecfng v\u1ea5n tr\u00ean t\u1ea1p ch\u00ed m\u1ea1ng Der Spiegel<\/a><\/em> (T\u1ea5m G\u01b0\u01a1ng<\/em>) (ng\u00e0y 11\/11\/2009) (b\u1ea3n Anh v\u0103n)<\/p>\n

\"umberto_eco\"<\/a> Nh\u00e0 v\u0103n Umberto Eco t\u1ea1i vi\u1ec7n b\u1ea3o t\u00e0ng Louvre (\u1ea3nh Lea Crespi, 2009)<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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LTS<\/strong>: G\u1ea7n \u0111\u00e2y nh\u00e0 v\u0103n\/nh\u00e0 k\u00fd hi\u1ec7u h\u1ecdc Umberto Eco \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c vi\u1ec7n b\u1ea3o t\u00e0ng Louvre t\u1ea1i Paris m\u1eddi \u0111\u1ea3m tr\u00e1ch cu\u1ed9c tri\u1ec3n l\u00e3m Mille e tre<\/em> (M\u1ed9t Ng\u00e0n L\u1ebb Ba<\/em>–l\u1ea5y \u00fd t\u1eeb b\u00e0i h\u00e1t trong v\u1edf op\u00e9ra c\u1ee7a Mozart v\u1ec1 danh s\u00e1ch c\u00e1c t\u00ecnh nh\u00e2n c\u1ee7a Don Giovanni (\u201cch\u00e0ng c\u00f3 t\u1edbi m\u1ed9t ng\u00e0n l\u1ebb ba ng\u01b0\u1eddi t\u00ecnh \u1edf x\u1ee9 T\u00e2y Ban Nha\u201d (ma in Ispagna son gi\u00e0 mille e tre)<\/em>. Trong d\u1ecbp Mille e tre<\/em> ra m\u1eaft v\u00e0o th\u00e1ng 11 n\u0103m 2009 (cu\u1ed9c tri\u1ec3n l\u00e3m \u0111\u00e3 ch\u1ea5m d\u1ee9t \u0111\u1ea7u tu\u1ea7n th\u00e1ng 2 n\u0103m 2010), Umberto Eco n\u00f3i chuy\u1ec7n v\u1edbi t\u1ea1p ch\u00ed Spiegel v\u1ec1 vai tr\u00f2 c\u1ee7a c\u00e1c danh s\u00e1ch trong l\u1ecbch s\u1eed v\u0103n h\u00f3a lo\u00e0i ng\u01b0\u1eddi, c\u00f9ng nh\u1eefng ph\u01b0\u01a1ng th\u1ee9c gi\u00fap ch\u00fang ta v\u01b0\u1ee3t qua c\u00e1i ch\u1ebft v\u00e0 t\u1ea1i sao Google l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t d\u1ee5ng c\u1ee5 hi\u1ec3m ngh\u00e8o cho th\u1ebf h\u1ec7 tr\u1ebb.<\/p>\n

B\u00e0i ph\u1ecfng v\u1ea5n \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c chia l\u00e0m hai ph\u1ea7n. Trong Ph\u1ea7n I, Umberto Eco n\u00f3i v\u1ec1 l\u1ecbch s\u1eed v\u00e0 v\u1ecb tr\u00ed v\u0103n h\u00f3a c\u1ee7a c\u00e1c danh s\u00e1ch c\u1ed5. Ph\u1ea7n II (\u0111\u0103ng ng\u00e0y mai, th\u1ee9 S\u00e1u 5\/3\/10), Umberto Eco so s\u00e1nh kh\u00e1i ni\u1ec7m truy\u1ec1n th\u1ed1ng v\u1ec1 danh s\u00e1ch v\u1edbi c\u00e1ch thu th\u1eadp th\u00f4ng tin c\u1ee7a Google.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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T\u1ea1p ch\u00ed Spiegel<\/strong>: Ch\u00e0o \u00f4ng. \u00d4ng \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c coi nh\u01b0 m\u1ed9t trong nh\u1eefng h\u1ecdc gi\u1ea3 uy\u00ean th\u00e2m nh\u1ea5t ho\u00e0n c\u1ea7u, v\u00e0 \u00f4ng hi\u1ec7n cho ra m\u1eaft m\u1ed9t cu\u1ed9c tri\u1ec3n l\u00e3m \u1edf Louvre, m\u1ed9t trong nh\u1eefng vi\u1ec7n b\u1ea3o t\u00e0ng quan tr\u1ecdng nh\u1ea5t ho\u00e0n c\u1ea7u. Nh\u01b0ng nh\u1eefng \u0111\u1ec1 t\u00e0i khai tri\u1ec3n b\u1edfi cu\u1ed9c tri\u1ec3n l\u00e3m n\u00e0y c\u00f3 v\u1ebb th\u00f4ng th\u01b0\u1eddng qu\u00e1: tinh ch\u1ea5t c\u1ee7a c\u00e1c danh s\u00e1ch, nh\u1eefng nh\u00e0 th\u01a1 li\u1ec7t k\u00ea c\u00e1c th\u1ee9 trong t\u00e1c ph\u1ea9m c\u1ee7a h\u1ecd v\u00e0 nh\u1eefng h\u1ecda s\u0129 thu th\u1eadp nh\u1eefng t\u0129nh v\u1eadt trong tranh c\u1ee7a h\u1ecd. T\u1ea1i sao \u00f4ng l\u1ea1i ch\u1ecdn nh\u1eefng \u0111\u1ec1 t\u00e0i n\u00e0y?<\/p>\n

Umberto Eco<\/strong>: Danh s\u00e1ch l\u00e0 nguy\u00ean th\u1ee7y c\u1ee7a v\u0103n h\u00f3a. N\u00f3 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t ph\u1ea7n c\u1ed1t y\u1ebfu trong l\u1ecbch s\u1eed c\u1ee7a ngh\u1ec7 thu\u1eadt v\u00e0 v\u0103n ch\u01b0\u01a1ng. V\u0103n h\u00f3a [lo\u00e0i ng\u01b0\u1eddi] \u0111\u00f2i h\u1ecfi \u0111i\u1ec1u g\u00ec? V\u0103n h\u00f3a mu\u1ed1n gi\u1ea3i \u0111\u00e1p kh\u00e1i ni\u1ec7m v\u00f4 bi\u00ean. N\u00f3 c\u0169ng mu\u1ed1n t\u1ea1o d\u1ef1ng tr\u1eadt t\u1ef1–kh\u00f4ng ph\u1ea3i l\u00fac n\u00e0o c\u0169ng v\u1eady, nh\u01b0ng th\u01b0\u1eddng th\u01b0\u1eddng l\u00e0 th\u1ebf. V\u00e0 con ng\u01b0\u1eddi l\u00e0m th\u1ebf n\u00e0o \u0111\u1ec3 \u0111\u1ed1i di\u1ec7n v\u1edbi kh\u00e1i ni\u1ec7m v\u00f4 bi\u00ean, v\u1edbi nh\u1eefng \u0111i\u1ec1u huy\u1ec1n ho\u1eb7c kh\u00f4ng c\u00f3 gi\u1ea3i \u0111\u00e1p? Ch\u00fang ta ch\u1ebf t\u1ea1o nh\u1eefng danh s\u00e1ch, b\u1ea3n k\u00ea khai, nh\u1eefng b\u1ed9 s\u01b0u t\u1ea7m trong c\u00e1c vi\u1ec7n b\u1ea3o t\u00e0ng, b\u1ed9 s\u00e1ch b\u00e1ch khoa, quy\u1ec3n t\u1ef1 \u0111i\u1ec3n. C\u00f3 m\u1ed9t \u0111i\u1ec1u g\u00ec r\u1ea5t quy\u1ebfn r\u0169 khi ta li\u1ec7t k\u00ea t\u1ed5ng s\u1ed1 nh\u1eefng chinh ph\u1ee5c \u00e1i t\u00ecnh c\u1ee7a Don Giovanni: 2,063 ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u1eb9p, d\u1ef1a theo danh s\u00e1ch trong b\u1ea3n aria il catalogo \u00e8 questo<\/em> c\u1ee7a Lorenzo da Ponte, nh\u00e0 so\u1ea1n l\u1eddi nh\u1ea1c cho Mozart. Ngo\u00e0i ra, ch\u00fang ta c\u0169ng c\u00f3 nh\u1eefng danh s\u00e1ch th\u1ef1c d\u1ee5ng: b\u1ea3n k\u00ea c\u00e1c th\u1ee9 h\u00e0ng c\u1ea7n mua \u1edf ch\u1ee3, di ch\u00fac, th\u1ef1c \u0111\u01a1n \u2013 t\u1ef1 ch\u00fang l\u00e0 nh\u1eefng th\u00e0nh qu\u1ea3 c\u1ee7a v\u0103n h\u00f3a.<\/p>\n

Spiegel<\/strong>: Nh\u01b0 v\u1eady m\u1ed9t ng\u01b0\u1eddi c\u00f3 c\u0103n b\u1ea3n v\u0103n h\u00f3a n\u00ean \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c coi nh\u01b0 m\u1ed9t ng\u01b0\u1eddi gi\u1eef tr\u1eadt t\u1ef1 \u1edf ch\u1ed1n h\u1ed7n \u0111\u1ed9n?<\/p>\n

Eco<\/strong>: Danh s\u00e1ch kh\u00f4ng h\u1ee7y di\u1ec7t v\u0103n h\u00f3a; n\u00f3 t\u1ea1o ra v\u0103n h\u00f3a. B\u1ea5t c\u1ee9 l\u00fac n\u00e0o ch\u00fang ta t\u00ecm hi\u1ec3u v\u1ec1 l\u1ecbch s\u1eed v\u0103n h\u00f3a lo\u00e0i ng\u01b0\u1eddi, ch\u00fang ta s\u1ebd ki\u1ebfm th\u1ea5y nh\u1eefng danh s\u00e1ch. Th\u1eadt v\u1eady, nh\u1eefng danh s\u00e1ch n\u00e0y s\u1ebd l\u00e0m ch\u00fang ta ch\u00f3ng m\u1eb7t, hoa m\u1eaft: danh s\u00e1ch c\u00e1c v\u1ecb th\u00e1nh, nh\u1eefng \u0111\u1ed9i binh v\u00e0 c\u00e1c d\u01b0\u1ee3c th\u1ea3o, hay nh\u1eefng b\u00e1u v\u1eadt v\u00e0 nh\u1eefng t\u1ef1a \u0111\u1ec1 s\u00e1ch \u0111\u00e3 xu\u1ea5t b\u1ea3n. C\u1ee9 ngh\u0129 \u0111\u1ebfn nh\u1eefng s\u01b0u t\u1ea7m v\u1ea1n v\u1eadt trong th\u1ebf k\u1ef7 16 m\u00e0 xem. Nh\u1eefng ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i c\u0169ng \u0111\u1ea7y m\u1ee9a nh\u1eefng danh s\u00e1ch.<\/p>\n

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Danh m\u1ee5c th\u01b0 vi\u1ec7n Thi\u1ec3m t\u1ed9c (A Sumerian library catalogue)
\n<\/em><\/strong><\/span>T\u1ea5m \u0111\u00e1 (t\u1eeb k\u1ef7 nguy\u00ean 2 tr\u01b0\u1edbc Thi\u00ean Ch\u00faa gi\u00e1o) kh\u1eafc danh m\u1ee5c c\u00e1c t\u00e1c ph\u1ea9m v\u0103n ch\u01b0\u01a1ng c\u1ee7a m\u1ed9t th\u01b0 vi\u1ec7n Thi\u1ec3m t\u1ed9c (Sumerian). Di t\u00edch n\u00e0y \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c khai qu\u1eadt t\u1eeb Nippur, m\u1ed9t th\u00e0nh ph\u1ed1 quan tr\u1ecdng c\u1ee7a v\u0103n minh c\u1ed5 mi\u1ec1n Mesopotamia, hi\u1ec7n l\u00e0 v\u00f9ng h\u1ea1 l\u01b0u nu\u1edbc Iraq (\u1ea3nh Raphael Chipault, b\u1ea3o t\u00e0ng Louvre)
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Spiegel<\/strong>: D\u00e2n k\u1ebf to\u00e1n l\u00e0m b\u1ea3n k\u00ea khai, nh\u01b0ng ch\u00fang ta c\u0169ng ki\u1ebfm th\u1ea5y nh\u1eefng danh m\u1ee5c trong t\u00e1c ph\u1ea9m c\u1ee7a Homer, c\u1ee7a Joyce v\u00e0 Thomas Mann.<\/p>\n

Eco<\/strong>: \u0110\u00fang v\u1eady, nh\u01b0ng nh\u1eefng nh\u00e0 v\u0103n n\u00e0y kh\u00f4ng ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 d\u00e2n k\u1ebf to\u00e1n. Trong Ulysses<\/em>, James Joyce t\u1ea3 c\u1ea3nh Leopold Bloom m\u1edf c\u00e1c ng\u0103n k\u00e9o t\u1ee7 v\u00e0 nh\u00ecn th\u1ea5y m\u1ecdi th\u1ee9 trong \u0111\u00f3. T\u00f4i coi \u0111\u00e2y l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t b\u1ea3n k\u00ea khai c\u1ee7a v\u0103n ch\u01b0\u01a1ng, n\u00f3 bi\u1ec3u l\u1ed9 r\u1ea5t nhi\u1ec1u v\u1ec1 con ng\u01b0\u1eddi c\u1ee7a Bloom. Hay th\u1eed \u0111\u1ecdc Homer. Trong t\u00e1c ph\u1ea9m thi ca The<\/em> Iliad, <\/em>nh\u00e0 th\u01a1 c\u1ed1 ph\u00e1c h\u1ecda cho \u0111\u1ed9c gi\u1ea3 s\u1ef1 b\u1ec1 th\u1ebf c\u1ee7a \u0111\u1ea1o qu\u00e2n Hy L\u1ea1p. L\u00fac \u0111\u1ea7u \u00f4ng v\u00ed von: \u201cNh\u01b0 l\u1eeda r\u1eebng ph\u1eebng ph\u1eebng tr\u00ean \u0111\u1ec9nh n\u00fai s\u00e1ng l\u00f3e t\u1eeb xa, \u0111o\u00e0n binh x\u00f4ng ti\u1ebfn trong \u00e1o gi\u00e1p ch\u00f3i ng\u1eddi m\u1ed9t v\u00f2m tr\u1eddi.\u201d Nh\u01b0ng Homer ch\u01b0a to\u1ea1i nguy\u1ec7n trong c\u00e1ch v\u00ed von n\u00e0y. \u00d4ng kh\u00f4ng ki\u1ebfm \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c m\u1ed9t \u1ea9n d\u1ee5 ch\u00ednh x\u00e1c, v\u00e0 \u00f4ng c\u1ea7u xin s\u1ef1 tr\u1ee3 gi\u00fap t\u1eeb c\u00e1c n\u1eef th\u1ea7n ngh\u1ec7 thu\u1eadt. Sau c\u00f9ng Homer kh\u00e1m ph\u00e1 ra c\u00e1ch li\u1ec7t k\u00ea v\u00f4 s\u1ed1 t\u00ean c\u00e1c t\u01b0\u1edbng l\u00e3nh Hy L\u1ea1p v\u00e0 c\u00e1c chi\u1ebfn thuy\u1ec1n c\u1ee7a h\u1ecd.<\/p>\n

\"Louvre_annalesthutmoseIII\"<\/a> B\u1ea3n ghi ch\u00e9p chi\u1ebfn l\u1ee3i ph\u1ea9m th\u1eddi vua Thutmose III
\n<\/em><\/span><\/strong>\u0110\u00e2y l\u00e0 nh\u1eefng t\u1ea5m \u0111\u00e1 tr\u00ean t\u01b0\u1eddng \u0110\u1ec1n Amun, Kamak, ghi l\u1ea1i nh\u1eefng chi\u1ebfn l\u1ee3i ph\u1ea9m mang v\u1ec1 cho vua Thutmose III (1479-1425 BC:
\n<\/em><\/span>\u201cChi\u1ebfn l\u1ee3i ph\u1ea9m \u0111o\u1ea1t \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c t\u1eeb binh s\u0129 c\u1ee7a t\u00ean ho\u00e0ng t\u1eed kh\u1ed1n n\u1ea1n th\u00e0nh Tunip:
\nHo\u00e0ng t\u1eed: 1
\nL\u00ednh tr\u00e1ng: 3029 m\u1ea1ng
\nB\u1ea1c: 100 d\u00e9ben (9 k\u00fd b\u1ea1c)
\nV\u00e0ng: 100 d\u00e9ben (9 k\u00fd v\u00e0ng)
\nCh\u00e2u b\u00e1u: \u0111\u00e1 da tr\u1eddi (lapis lazuli), ng\u1ecdc lam, nh\u1eefng \u0111\u1ed3 ch\u1ee9a b\u1eb1ng \u0111\u1ed3ng\u201d (\u1ea3nh Raphael Chipault, b\u1ea3o t\u00e0ng Louvre)
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Spiegel<\/strong>: Nh\u01b0ng l\u00e0m nh\u01b0 v\u1eady c\u00f3 ph\u1ea3i Homer \u0111\u00e3 ra kh\u1ecfi khu\u00f4n kh\u1ed5 c\u1ee7a thi ca?<\/p>\n

Eco<\/strong>: L\u00fac \u0111\u1ea7u ch\u00fang ta ngh\u0129 r\u1eb1ng danh s\u00e1ch hay b\u1ea3n k\u00ea khai l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t di t\u00edch th\u1eadt th\u00f4 s\u01a1 v\u00e0 \u0111i\u1ec3n h\u00ecnh cho c\u00e1c v\u0103n h\u00f3a xa x\u01b0a, v\u00ec c\u00e1c v\u0103n h\u00f3a n\u00e0y kh\u00f4ng c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t kh\u00e1i ni\u1ec7m g\u00ec r\u00f5 r\u1ec7t v\u1ec1 v\u0169 tr\u1ee5 v\u00e0 do \u0111\u00f3 ch\u1ec9 c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 li\u1ec7t k\u00ea nh\u1eefng th\u1ee9 m\u00e0 ch\u00fang ti\u1ebfp th\u1ee5 v\u00e0o l\u00fac \u0111\u00f3. Nh\u01b0ng, trong l\u1ecbch s\u1eed v\u0103n h\u00f3a, c\u00e1c danh s\u00e1ch \u0111\u00e3 t\u1ed3n t\u1ea1i t\u1eeb \u0111\u1eddi n\u00e0y sang \u0111\u1eddi kh\u00e1c. Ch\u00fang kh\u00f4ng ch\u1ec9 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t bi\u1ec3u hi\u1ec7u c\u1ee7a nh\u1eefng v\u0103n h\u00f3a man d\u00e3. Trong th\u1eddi \u0111\u1ea1i Trung C\u1ed5, khi con ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u00e3 khai tri\u1ec3n m\u1ed9t kh\u00e1i ni\u1ec7m r\u1ea5t r\u00f5 r\u1ec7t v\u1ec1 v\u0169 tr\u1ee5, nh\u1eefng danh s\u00e1ch v\u1eabn ti\u1ebfp n\u1ed1i. Khi m\u1ed9t khuynh h\u01b0\u1edbng m\u1edbi d\u1ef1a tr\u00ean thi\u00ean v\u0103n h\u1ecdc tr\u1edf n\u00ean ph\u1ed5 qu\u00e1t trong th\u1eddi Ph\u1ee5c H\u01b0ng v\u00e0 th\u1eddi Ba-R\u1ed1c, nh\u1eefng danh s\u00e1ch m\u1edbi c\u0169ng \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c ra \u0111\u1eddi. Danh s\u00e1ch c\u0169ng l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t kh\u00e1i ni\u1ec7m ph\u1ed5 th\u00f4ng trong th\u1eddi h\u1eadu hi\u1ec7n \u0111\u1ea1i. N\u00f3 c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t s\u1ee9c h\u00fat ma qu\u00e1i, kh\u00f3 c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 c\u01b0\u1ee1ng l\u1ea1i.<\/p>\n

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Spiegel<\/strong>: Nh\u01b0ng t\u1ea1i sao Homer l\u1ea1i n\u00eau t\u00ean c\u00e1c v\u1ecb t\u01b0\u1edbng v\u00e0 nh\u1eefng chi\u1ebfn thuy\u1ec1n c\u1ee7a h\u1ecd, khi nh\u00e0 th\u01a1 bi\u1ebft r\u1eb1ng \u00f4ng kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 k\u1ec3 h\u1ebft t\u00ean m\u1ecdi danh t\u01b0\u1edbng trong \u0111o\u00e0n qu\u00e2n Hy L\u1ea1p?<\/p>\n

Eco<\/strong>: Thi ca c\u1ee7a Homer c\u1ed1 t\u1ea1o t\u00e1c \u0111\u1ecba h\u00ecnh cho m\u1ea3nh giang s\u01a1n kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 di\u1ec5n \u0111\u1ea1t. M\u1ecdi ngh\u1ec7 s\u0129 s\u1ebd lu\u00f4n lu\u00f4n th\u1eed nghi\u1ec7m \u0111i\u1ec1u n\u00e0y. L\u00fac n\u00e0o ch\u00fang ta c\u0169ng b\u1ecb cu\u1ed1n h\u00fat b\u1edfi s\u1ef1 v\u00f4 bi\u00ean c\u1ee7a kh\u00f4ng gian, b\u1edfi nh\u1eefng chu\u1ed7i sao tr\u1eddi v\u00f4 t\u1eadn, nh\u1eefng thi\u00ean h\u00e0 n\u1ed1i g\u00f3t nh\u1eefng thi\u00ean h\u00e0. M\u1ed9t con ng\u01b0\u1eddi c\u1ea3m th\u1ea5y nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf n\u00e0o khi ng\u1ea9ng m\u1eb7t nh\u00ecn tr\u1eddi? H\u1eafn ngh\u0129 h\u1eafn kh\u00f4ng \u0111\u1ee7 ng\u00f4n ng\u1eef \u0111\u1ec3 t\u1ea3 nh\u1eefng th\u1ee9 h\u1eafn nh\u00ecn th\u1ea5y. Lo\u00e0i ng\u01b0\u1eddi ch\u01b0a ng\u1eebng chuy\u1ec7n t\u1ea3 tr\u1eddi, cho d\u00f9 h\u1ecd v\u1eabn ch\u1ec9 c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 t\u1ea3 nh\u1eefng th\u1ee9 h\u1ecd hi\u1ec7n c\u00f3 kh\u1ea3 n\u0103ng nh\u00ecn th\u1ea5y. Nh\u1eefng c\u1eb7p t\u00ecnh nh\u00e2n c\u0169ng th\u1ebf. H\u1ecd thi\u1ebfu th\u1ed1n ng\u00f4n ng\u1eef, h\u1ecd kh\u00f4ng c\u00f3 \u0111\u1ee7 ng\u00f4n t\u1eeb \u0111\u1ec3 di\u1ec5n t\u1ea3 m\u1ecdi c\u1ea3m x\u00fac trong t\u00ecnh y\u00eau. Nh\u01b0ng c\u00f3 bao gi\u1edd nh\u1eefng t\u00ecnh nh\u00e2n l\u1ea1i ng\u1eebng ca t\u1ee5ng ng\u01b0\u1eddi h\u1ecd y\u00eau? Kh\u00f4ng, h\u1ecd bi\u1ebft c\u00e1ch ch\u1ebf t\u1ea1o nh\u1eefng danh m\u1ee5c th\u00e2n th\u01b0\u01a1ng: m\u1eaft em \u0111\u1eb9p qu\u00e1, v\u00e0 mi\u1ec7ng em th\u1eadt \u0111\u00e1ng y\u00eau, c\u1ea3 mi\u1ebfng x\u01b0\u01a1ng \u0111\u00f2n c\u1ee7a em \u2026.<\/p>\n

Spiegel<\/strong>: T\u1ea1i sao ch\u00fang ta l\u1ea1i ph\u00ed t\u1ed5n qu\u00e1 nhi\u1ec1u th\u1eddi gi\u1edd \u0111\u1ec3 c\u1ed1 ho\u00e0n t\u1ea5t nh\u1eefng th\u1ee9 th\u1eadt ra kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 ho\u00e0n t\u1ea5t?<\/p>\n

Eco<\/strong>: Ch\u00fang ta c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t bi\u00ean gi\u1edbi, m\u1ed9t bi\u00ean gi\u1edbi nh\u1ee5c nh\u00e3, b\u1ebd b\u00e0ng: \u0111\u00f3 l\u00e0 c\u00e1i ch\u1ebft. V\u00ec v\u1eady ch\u00fang ta y\u00eau chu\u1ed9ng t\u1ea5t c\u1ea3 m\u1ecdi th\u1ee9 m\u00e0 ch\u00fang ta cho l\u00e0 kh\u00f4ng c\u00f3 bi\u00ean gi\u1edbi, v\u00e0 do \u0111\u00f3, v\u00f4 h\u1ea1n \u0111\u1ecbnh. \u0110\u00e2y l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t c\u00e1ch v\u01b0\u1ee3t qua c\u00e1i ch\u1ebft. Ch\u00fang ta th\u00edch nh\u1eefng danh s\u00e1ch v\u00ec ch\u00fang ta mu\u1ed1n \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c b\u1ea5t t\u1eed.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

L\u00fac n\u00e0o ch\u00fang ta c\u0169ng b\u1ecb cu\u1ed1n h\u00fat b\u1edfi s\u1ef1 v\u00f4 bi\u00ean c\u1ee7a kh\u00f4ng gian, b\u1edfi nh\u1eefng chu\u1ed7i sao tr\u1eddi v\u00f4 t\u1eadn …. M\u1ed9t con ng\u01b0\u1eddi c\u1ea3m th\u1ea5y nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf n\u00e0o khi ng\u1ea9ng m\u1eb7t nh\u00ecn tr\u1eddi? H\u1eafn ngh\u0129 h\u1eafn kh\u00f4ng \u0111\u1ee7 ng\u00f4n ng\u1eef \u0111\u1ec3 t\u1ea3 nh\u1eefng th\u1ee9 h\u1eafn nh\u00ecn th\u1ea5y, nh\u01b0ng lo\u00e0i ng\u01b0\u1eddi v\u1eabn ch\u01b0a ng\u1eebng chuy\u1ec7n t\u1ea3 tr\u1eddi …<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1508,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"h5ap_radio_sources":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,26,140,133,42,177],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11048","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bien-khao","category-dich-thuat","category-nghe-thuat","category-phong-van","category-sang-viet-ngu","category-van-hoa"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/damau.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11048","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/damau.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/damau.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/damau.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1508"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/damau.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11048"}],"version-history":[{"count":26,"href":"https:\/\/damau.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11048\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":54966,"href":"https:\/\/damau.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11048\/revisions\/54966"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/damau.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11048"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/damau.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11048"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/damau.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11048"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}